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For Hjalmar, me and others interested in figuring out how to play T-Ride songs- post your tips here thanks!

Attempting to play along with The Moon Is Bleeding-
I found Geoff used a drop D tuning of DGCFAD
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cool thanks man! Yes that was a drop down D tuning. I don't remember how it goes so if you figure it out, let me know

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Found a video comparison of new polyphase and pigtonix ep-2
http://acapella.harmony-central.com/showthread.php?p=38947340

the polyphase video wasn't too revealling, but the pigtronix
might simulate the original polyphase and serve as a rotovibe.
The demoguy starts off with a "vibe" type effect and using the speed
control and an expression pedal might do rotovibe sounds...
Also it sounds somewhat polyphase-like.
However to my ears it sounds like it gives you an envelope effect you can phase.- Instead of the phase you can envelope as in the ol' polyphase.

So this might be a solution for acheiving T-ride sounds. Am I right???
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There's a decent explanation of the differences between the new& old polyphase here:
http://guitargeek.com/chat/showthread.php?t=83304
(read what echoboy has to say about it)
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I've been doing more phaser research and since it would be nice to have a phaser where you could change speed (with the pigtronix attach an expression pedal....
Well , I just found this new product:

 http://www.sourceaudio.net/videos/post/hot-hand-phaser-flanger-demo/)...
at the end of the video he controls the rate with hand/motion control.
Cool, right?
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Listening to T-Ride's production the layers  begin to unravel...
I'm hearing how some pieces are punched in and how it got stitched together. There are little background tracks of guitar, layers to it that I'm really digging.

Anyway, some music is so powerful it sticks with you and even years later
you come back to it and you still love it. Now putting your thought into it,
you remember things that first drew you into loving it- how it spun your brain and challenged your thought- here's an example: Push Comes To Shove-Van Halen if you are not blown away by the layering of guitars and their interplay then - well you wouldn't be reading this!
I get a similar emotional response in reaction to hearing the (sans vocals) version of Heroes&Villains the slide combined with the bubbling phased effects is awesome.
No wonder Geoff says that even with all the ace drumming, & bass-work people are most impressed and talk about the guitar-playing.
That is probably true because the guitar gets to deliver the sweet melodies and counterpoints over that solid foundation.

My point is I think I appreciate the music more now than ever because I'm beginning to understand my reactions to it, I think I can focus on it better and pick it apart instantaneously (might take a few repeated listens as I concentrate
Also, like others here this music that Geoff has created (or helped to create) is important to us because it challenges us and excites us and inspires us and confounds us, too


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I've been chatting a little with Steve Ouimette and he told me:

That was Eric's brother's amp on the T-Ride record for the whole thing. It was a 1980 Marshall 2203 that was stock along with my '88 Marshall 1960B 4x12 cab with Celestion Vintage 30's. Funny, I wouldn't own one of those Marshall's until much later. Great amp!


He also wrote on "the Gear Page" that:

Thanks Ed! Most people know Geoff Tyson from the band not only because he was on the cover, but he also toured with them and had an article in "Guitar" back in the day where they featured a transcription of Backdoor Romeo. Geoff is a phenomenal player just as Dan Arlie was an incredible singer-songwriter and Eric Valentine was the bionic producer/drummer/guitarist/bassist. Eric later bought Stevie Wonder's studio in LA (Crystal?).


I joined the band during the recording of the record after having recorded a demo/album with a great singer named Dave Candelaria during 88-89. They brought me in because I recorded the intro lick to Zombies From Hell, which I traded for more studio time. Long story short, by the time the album was done Geoff was back in the band (he predated me) and had played on the record as well. He left to tour with them and I moved on. 


One of the greatest records, just bad timing I guess. 


My buddy just texted me and said he heard Luxury Cruiser this morning on the radio. Yeah!


Steve


BTW, that entire record was recorded using one guitar and amp. The guitar was a run-of-the-mill Charvel Strat with maple fingerboard and one pickup...a real P.A.F., not sure of the year but I believe it was a '59. The amp was a 1980 Marshall 2203, stock. The cab was my 1960B with Vintage 30's in it that was bought in '88. The speaker mic'd was the top right one and it went right on the grill dead center with a 57. Most always Eric used a Summit Audio TPA 200-B mic pre for the guitars even though he had a Neve with 1073's. ADA Flanger, Mutron Octave Divider and a Phase 90 were used here and there. I think everything was at least double-tracked if not triple.


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This might bring some of your other gear memories back Geoff haha
If you come up with anything more, please add.

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So the humbucker was PAF but the singelcoil then. I am wondering what kind of pickup that was?
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Nice to get more info on the recording of T-Ride!
I've seen many different charvel models with various pick-up combos.
three single coils, humbucker and 2 single coil, one humbucker...
Eric sure knew his stuff in the studio- and then buying Stevie W's studio,
I don't know any billionaire drummers out there- he'll probably be the first!
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Actually there were quite a few different guitar setups for that album. We had the Peavey 5150 and my Gary Brawer guitar for the recording of Bone Down. The 4x12 cabinets were home-made. Also did some tracks direct with a hex pickup, some with a Ampex Port-flex bass amp into an SVT 8x10 cabinet. Even did some tracks with a little Marshall combo amp with a 10 inch speaker. The Charvel - Marshall combo was just for a few songs.

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Interesting. I have to say that  even though you guys used a lot of different stuff on the record, it feels as if the guitar sound is kind of the same on every track in some way. 
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